Vibe Coding Security Risks & Malicious Injection with Jake Rodriguez of Triangle Tech | Ep. 66 - Full Transcript | The Med Device Cyber Podcast

People are more going towards Gemini and Perplexity and Claude. I think OpenAI kind of took the 'L,' but in the future is going to be doing more LLM search instead of Google search. But of course, if you're skeptical and you really want the real answers, it's best to use Google to validate your sources. If you turn over the reins to AI and say, "Build me a medical device," the FDA is going to burn the building down. You're never going to be able to have a safe and effective product. Why would the China Airlines app need access to my microphone or my camera? So, I think most people just click on next, next, next, next, and pretty soon, like their phone is listening to things they don't even know, but they gave it permission. The whole brand of Apple just got into their heads, and now they're like, I have to have an Apple. Could you explain this vibe coder thing? You're like smoking pot and like coding or something? People are creating apps based on creativity. Something random that they want to make, turn it into an app or a website. Before you were just doing it to people, now you're doing it to the AI. Malicious actors are getting pretty good at this creative prompting to try to trick the AI and break it out of its own guardrails. And so that's where you start to see those really malicious use cases. Hello and welcome back to the Med Device Cyber Podcast. Today we're wrapping up the quarter. We've got a really exciting conversation ahead. We're going to dive into some exciting topics around AI, marketing, cybersecurity, and how any of those three things can tie together. I'm your co-host, Trevor Slattery, joined with our other co-host, Christian Espinosa, as usual. And here we have a really special guest today. Jake, I'll go ahead and turn it over to you for a little bit of an intro and love to hear a bit about what you're working on. Yeah, hello everyone. My name is Jake, and I guess starting with my origin story, I went to college in Richmond, Virginia Commonwealth University. And there I was on the pre-pharmacy track, um, worked in a pharmacy as a tech and didn't really like it. Um, explored different areas such as the realm of research, and during my time in undergrad, I did a research project on heparin sulfate, and it really opened my eyes to the pharmaceutical industry. And ever since then, you know, I've been in process science and pharmaceutical manufacturing, and how I got into marketing? Well, that's a funny story. So, when COVID hit, I was trying to find out what was the differentiation between traditional vaccines and these new mRNA vaccines, and I couldn't find a lot of information on traditional vaccines. And so, I looked up why was this happening, and it brought me into Google SEO, and I just went down a rabbit hole of understanding SEO and marketing. And you know, ever since then, I just been learning more about marketing. And then I started my own B2C agency called Let's Social Media. And recently, I kind of rebranded and turned into B2B. So now I'm working with clients in pharma, life science, um, a little bit of tech and manufacturing vendors. And where are you coming to us from? I am currently in Raleigh, North Carolina. I have a couple questions. Uh, you mentioned like pharma tech. They just like count the pills and put in the bottles. Is that? And then explain like the side effect? I know you said you left it because you're bored with it. Is that pretty much true? So, as a pharmacy technician, you're calling patients, you're calling nurses and doctors, handling, you know, patient transactions and stuff like that. I didn't really handle the drug side of things. That's what a pharmacist would do. Okay, maybe that's a pharmacist. I don't know. That's a lot of admin work. Cause you have to like go to pharmacy school or something. But I just see them like taking like a massive amount of pills and like counting them one by one and put them in a bottle and give them to a patient. I'm like, you know, why do you have to go to a lot of school for this? It seems pretty simple, but you know, pretty intensive school, too. And I mean, I mean, they have to understand the side effects of what would happen if it's on the bottle, though. It's on the bottle. They print out the label, they print out on the bottles. Is it, though? I don't think a lot of people understand SEO. You mentioned the term SEO, which is search engine optimization. I probably spent thousands of hours myself trying to master SEO, and you know, it always changed a little bit, uh, especially with AI, and now you have to be search engine optimized for AI, um, platforms so they can, if someone searches in ChatGPT, they can find your organization. So maybe let's like step a little bit back and explain, Jake, from your perspective, what SEO is and some of the things we can do to optimize that.