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AI in Healthcare: Why Humans Still Matter with Brandon Fertig, Senior Manager at Philips | Ep. 62 - Full Transcript | The Med Device Cyber Podcast

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Episode summary

In this episode of the MedDevice Cyber Podcast, hosts Trevor Slattery and Christian Espinosa are joined by Brandon Fertig, Senior Manager at Philips, to discuss the intersection of military experience, healthcare cybersecurity, and the evolving role of artificial intelligence. Brandon shares his unique career trajectory, which began with a 20-year tenure in the Air Force where he started in IT during the early days of networking and cybersecurity before transitioning to flying C-130s. This dual background in hands-on IT and high-stakes aviation provided him with a deep appreciation for discipline, process, and the critical importance of addressing the "human factor," skills he now applies to the medical technology (MedTech) industry at Philips and through his work with MedTech Vets, an organization that helps veterans transition into the field. The conversation delves into the core challenges facing the MedTech industry, particularly the tendency to treat cybersecurity as a reactive measure rather than a proactive, integral part of the product design lifecycle. The hosts and guest argue that robust cybersecurity is not merely a technical requirement but is fundamental evidence of quality code and is directly linked to patient safety. They explore the concept of the "Swiss cheese model" of risk, where multiple seemingly small oversights in planning—from regulatory to security—can align to create catastrophic failures. This is exacerbated by the human element; project timelines are often drastically underestimated because the complexities and edge cases are not accounted for early in the process. The speakers emphasize that what may seem like a one-month project can easily extend to six months or more when security, regulatory, and cross-departmental coordination are belatedly introduced, leading to delays, increased costs, and frustrated customers. A significant portion of the discussion is dedicated to the impact of AI on the modern workforce. The panel counters the common fear of AI causing job displacement, reframing it as a powerful tool for augmentation and efficiency. They argue that professionals who learn to leverage AI to automate repeatable tasks, analyze data, and streamline processes will become more valuable and irreplaceable in their roles. However, they also stress AI's limitations, particularly in handling novel or un-trained scenarios, where human creativity, critical thinking, and nuance are indispensable. Using the example of a Waymo self-driving car getting stuck in an unusual traffic situation, they illustrate that while AI is excellent at procedural tasks, the human ability to connect disparate dots and solve unique problems remains a vital checkpoint, especially in critical fields like healthcare and aviation.

Key takeaways from this episode

Instead of fearing AI as a job replacement, professionals should embrace it as a tool to enhance efficiency, automate routine tasks, and ultimately add more value to their roles.
The "human factor" is an irreplaceable element in complex systems. While AI can handle programmed procedures, it often fails at creative problem-solving in unforeseen "edge case" scenarios.
Cybersecurity is not an afterthought but is direct evidence of quality code and a foundational component of patient safety, especially in the medical device industry.
Effective project management requires proactive planning and a realistic timeline. Underestimating complexities by not involving security and regulatory teams early on leads to significant delays and costs.
Veterans possess highly transferable skills from their military service, including discipline, process-oriented thinking, and operating under pressure, which are invaluable in the MedTech and cybersecurity sectors.
As technology, particularly AI, becomes more integrated into healthcare, the focus must remain on patient safety and quality, ensuring human oversight is maintained where it is most critical.
Formalized processes and standards are crucial for moving beyond a reactive, "wild west" approach to cybersecurity and building robust, secure systems from the ground up.

Full episode transcript

Christian: people are afraid of AI taking their job, but if you can learn to use AI to your benefit, learn to prompt it properly, set up your custom GPT, whatever you need to do, it will help you add more value to whoever you're trying to add the value to as well. Brandon: Grab a hold of AI because it ain't going nowhere. It's only going to get bigger. Brandon: I want to get so good at AI that I'm irreplaceable. Trevor: And if you're putting quality training in, you're going to get quality output out of it. If you don't have any training on a situation, you're probably not going to get any output from it, and your Waymo is going to just go back and forth in the middle of the street. Brandon: I think it comes back to something where you can never remove it. It's the human factors. Brandon: leaning so heavily into AI that we start missing the whole point of it in the first place is to build in patient safety and quality. Trevor: Cyber security is evidence of quality code. Full stop. Trevor: Hello and welcome back to the Med Device Cyber podcast. Today, we're going to take you down a journey to see where the intersection of healthcare cyber security and some military experience can come in to tie everything together. I'm joined here by our co-host Christian Espinosa and we have a very special guest, Brandon Fertig. Brandon, I'll turn it over to you to introduce yourself here. Brandon: Hey, thanks Trevor. I'm really glad to have made this connection. Christian and I met at the MedTech World, so I want to give them a plug for their ability to connect people of like-minded backgrounds and, um, and create and generate excitement around a lot of the work that we do. Christian and I kind of talked at some, uh, Mettech conference in San Diego. and I know we've talked, uh, online about the Mettech World Conference and, uh, unfortunately for me that remained remote due to the government shutdown and some of the nuances of what happened last year. So I was trying to make it out to the world conference but I'm going to try to do that again very soon, uh, Christian. So, you know, as you guys asked me to be here today, uh, just my background is I did, uh, 20 years in the Air Force. I started off in IT. So, uh, Christian and I share, I think, a appreciation for the military when we kind of started to cut our teeth. I mean, our networks were, were in their infam, their infamacy, infants, infancy. And, um, you know, they were, they were just coming out of like a, you know, a lot of things were still text-based, especially in the military. ADA, you know, we used ADA for programming or a lot of govern- programming, things of that nature. And they were, you know, the forefront of setting up domains, DMZs, firewalls. Security was a huge thing that everybody was projecting was going to be a huge job for everybody, and it was, and it is today. So, cutting my teeth on that really gave me an opportunity to see a broader scope of what happens behind the scenes, as you get into leadership, as you get into management. You have a great perspective of what it takes to get projects running, and security is always a major factor. So, uh, when Christian and I, um, discussed this podcast, I think we both found that we're going to have a lot to talk about. I'm very excited to be here, so thanks for having me. Christian: Well, thanks for joining. Where are you coming from today, Brandon? Brandon: Yes, I work remotely, so, um, I do like to travel. I've been to 60 countries for the Air Force, but also for my own enjoyment. I travel extensively. But today I’m coming from Arkansas. I set up camp here mainly because I used to teach here at the C-130 schoolhouse. I used to fly C-130s in the Air Force. And, uh, coming here, it was based on a network need, but now that I've been here, we've made huge leaps and bounds in the medical space here. And that actually was a secondary effect of me just being in a project management role and also being central to the whole country. Arkansas is an affordable place to live, has a lot going for it. It's big growth, big vision here. And also, I think people are looking to find better ways to do business and save money. And Arkansas is been really hot for that right now. A lot of business moving in here, technology, AI businesses, security and healthcare are all huge right now in the, in the metro Little Rock area. And, uh, just happened to be in the right place at the right time. So I come to you from, uh, the Midwest of, kind of considered South Midwest of America. It allows me to get on a plane and jump anywhere I need to be in a moment's notice, and it's, it's really flexible. So we use a first springboard and, uh, we love living here.

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